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how strong is yajirobe ?
Topic Started: Jul 1 2014, 02:59 PM (1,425 Views)
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in the z fighters list, where is he located ?
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Dragonball he's about the same as Tien and Goku at the 22nd Budokai.

Dragonball Z after training at Kami's I think he's about 1200 or something.


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Piccolo Daimao Arc: On par with or slightly weaker than Goku, before Divine Water.
23rd TB: Speculation, but I put him a good deal below Yamcha, but not too much.
Saiyan arc: If most of the Zet-Senshi are around 1500, he's about half of that.
Android arc: Don't think he got too much stronger, but I'll max him at 20,000.
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I think he's overrated a little bit during his first appearance. Goku merely calls Yajirobe "resilient", which just means he can take a big beating. Also, unless Goku got a rage boost, it's implied that Goku wasn't putting full effort against Yajirobe due to this line:

Context: Yajirobe watches Goku fight Tambourine
Yajirobe: “It…it’s probably best not to make him mad…”

For the 23rd-Freeza arc it's mostly speculation but I just stick him below Yamcha and maybe above Chaozu (without psychic powers). After the humans train on King Kai's planet he basically stays at the back for the rest of the series, possibly not even breaking his Saiyan saga PL.

Edit: Yajirobe also wasn't doing all that great against Cymbal, despite Cymbal being much weaker than Tambourine, whom Goku stopped.
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I thought Yajirobe killed Cymbal with one attack?
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I thought Yajirobe killed Cymbal with one attack?
With his sword, which doesn't say much of his own strength. I'm not even saying Yajirobe wasn't stronger than Cymbal, just that he was certainly having a hard time of it, which Goku almost certainly wouldn't have done.
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Hmm... Yajirobe attacked underestimating his opponent, got knocked around a bit, got back up, started knocking Cymbal around like it was nothing before showing his speed by dodging Cymbal's attacks and then slicing him. Goku was even very impressed.
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Jul 1 2014, 03:06 PM
I think he's overrated a little bit during his first appearance. Goku merely calls Yajirobe "resilient", which just means he can take a big beating. Also, unless Goku got a rage boost, it's implied that Goku wasn't putting full effort against Yajirobe due to this line:

Context: Yajirobe watches Goku fight Tambourine
Yajirobe: “It…it’s probably best not to make him mad…”

For the 23rd-Freeza arc it's mostly speculation but I just stick him below Yamcha and maybe above Chaozu (without psychic powers). After the humans train on King Kai's planet he basically stays at the back for the rest of the series, possibly not even breaking his Saiyan saga PL.

Edit: Yajirobe also wasn't doing all that great against Cymbal, despite Cymbal being much weaker than Tambourine, whom Goku stopped.
he always says things like that, thats how he is but he doesnt displays his power by sentences.
also yajirobe is not a brawler hand-to-hand fighter (even though he is pretty good at it), his skills come with the sword, look at what he did to vegeta's back, it is a feat on saiyan saga. he is what you can call a 'ronin'-samurai without a master.

in my opinion give him a sword and he could kill some saibamen.
well... maybe idk, im still not sure of his powers.
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Jul 1 2014, 03:21 PM
Hmm... Yajirobe attacked underestimating his opponent, got knocked around a bit, got back up, started knocking Cymbal around like it was nothing before showing his speed by dodging Cymbal's attacks and then slicing him. Goku was even very impressed.
Where did you get the underestimated thing from? Cymbal dodges one of Yajirobes attacks and hits him three times, knocking him flat on his face. Yajirobe only hit Cymbal once and it didn't even knock him down, just twisted his upper half slightly (he kicked his chin). Yajirobe is frantically dodging Cymbal's ki attacks at first, before getting his sword out and charging at him.
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I don't mind Yajirobe 'sitting' in the 900 range. He was able to hurt Vegeta when he was really weakened. Though, he was still able to comfortably pound on Gohan.
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Jul 1 2014, 03:27 PM
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Jul 1 2014, 03:21 PM
Hmm... Yajirobe attacked underestimating his opponent, got knocked around a bit, got back up, started knocking Cymbal around like it was nothing before showing his speed by dodging Cymbal's attacks and then slicing him. Goku was even very impressed.
Where did you get the underestimated thing from? Cymbal dodges one of Yajirobes attacks and hits him three times, knocking him flat on his face. Yajirobe only hit Cymbal once and it didn't even knock him down, just twisted his upper half slightly (he kicked his chin). Yajirobe is frantically dodging Cymbal's ki attacks at first, before getting his sword out and charging at him.
your mistake is that you see everyone in DBZ as brawlers or not. yajirobe is not one of them he is skilled with the katana. he might not be as strong as trunks but he can definitely handle the sword better (if he had equal strength).
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Jul 1 2014, 03:31 PM
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Jul 1 2014, 03:27 PM
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Jul 1 2014, 03:21 PM
Hmm... Yajirobe attacked underestimating his opponent, got knocked around a bit, got back up, started knocking Cymbal around like it was nothing before showing his speed by dodging Cymbal's attacks and then slicing him. Goku was even very impressed.
Where did you get the underestimated thing from? Cymbal dodges one of Yajirobes attacks and hits him three times, knocking him flat on his face. Yajirobe only hit Cymbal once and it didn't even knock him down, just twisted his upper half slightly (he kicked his chin). Yajirobe is frantically dodging Cymbal's ki attacks at first, before getting his sword out and charging at him.
your mistake is that you see everyone in DBZ as brawlers or not. yajirobe is not one of them he is skilled with the katakana. he might not be as strong as trunks but he can definitely handle the sword better (if he had equal strength).
It's not a mistake, I was talking about their strength as the topic said, not their skills in a specific area. That's why I said "Chaozu (Without Psychic Powers)", since with Psychic Powers I would have him easily beating Yajirobe in the 23rd and Saiyan saga, while without them I'm more unsure. Yajirobe's sword doesn't say anything about his own strength...
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Jul 1 2014, 03:27 PM
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Hmm... Yajirobe attacked underestimating his opponent, got knocked around a bit, got back up, started knocking Cymbal around like it was nothing before showing his speed by dodging Cymbal's attacks and then slicing him. Goku was even very impressed.
Where did you get the underestimated thing from? Cymbal dodges one of Yajirobes attacks and hits him three times, knocking him flat on his face. Yajirobe only hit Cymbal once and it didn't even knock him down, just twisted his upper half slightly (he kicked his chin). Yajirobe is frantically dodging Cymbal's ki attacks at first, before getting his sword out and charging at him.
Doesn't change the fact that Goku was impressed.
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Goku wasn't impressed by his power. ^
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Jul 1 2014, 03:35 PM
Goku wasn't impressed by his power. ^
No, but he has already 'complimented' Yajirobe's resilience and this time his speed. I see no reason to have Yajirobe way below Goku.
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